Why Audible.Com is Failing
I just set up an account for my daughter with audible.com, and downloaded a book for her to listen to on the bus. The good news is that is appears to be all set up now, and ready to download to her iTouch. The bad news is ... everything else.We spent nearly an hour buying a single audio "book", and getting it copied down to her computer. The problems were nearly all related to digital rights management, though I'd class them in two groups: fundamental, and incompetent.The fundamental problem is that DRM makes downloading and using media much more difficult. It restricts which programs and devices you can use it with. Further, is it any surprise that downloading a program whose fundamental purpose is to prevent proscribed uses of a media file makes it more difficult to successfully use that media file? In the case of audible, we had to download a program to my daughter's laptop that insinuated itself into firefox and itunes in unspecified ways, so that she could download the Audible files she had paid for to her laptop, and thence to her iPod. This program failed to install itself properly the first time -- apparently it doesn't check to see whether itunes is running, but fails mysteriously if it is. When we tried to download the book we had paid for to her computer, we kept getting mysterious error messages. These went away once we reinstalled the software.The problems of incompetence were mostly caused by a user interface that tries to pretend that the challenge is easier than it actually is. The Web site makes a big thing out of the four simple steps required to get going with Audible. Step 1 is "Pick a plan". We didn't want to sign up for a plan, so it took us a while to figure out that you can buy books without a plan. Step 2 is "Download Audible software". In the description it says "You can also use ITunes to download audio ...". We decided to go that route initially, before figuring out that apparently the audible.com software is required in addition to iTunes. It didn't help that the iPod Touch is not listed in the "supported devices" list, so we had to guess which software we need. Step 3 is "Purchase and download". Our problems with this step are described in the previous paragraph. Step 4 is "Transfer your audio to your AudibleReady device". Here the solution was easy: we just had to figure out that Audible had created a new sort of "playlist" in iTunes, and that we had to tell iTunes to sync that playlist with the iPod Touch. A common step in iTunes -- but it would have been nice for Audible to walk us through that step.A very frustrating hour later, my daughter is pretty happy with having her book ready for the bus. I'm much less happy. Audible seems like a company that is going to fail if they don't figure out these user interface issues. What, then, will happen to the DRM that requires a "phone home" to install the book on a different device? (Yes, even the iPod Touch will one day seem outdated.) Even though I'm eager to listen to "books on pod" while I exercise, I refuse to buy these DRM-crippled alternatives. Yes, convenience is worth a lot, but more important to me is the principle that media that I buy must be usable for me into the murky future, independent of the survival of any one company, format, device, or business model.What do you think?John
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Do you guys complain this much about everything?
Wow, is this what the USA has come to? A bunch of whiney people who give up at the first challenge? Why don't you just learn how to use a computer? Do you realize how difficult it is for somebody like Audible to get their software and a product containing licensing rights to work with a shitty product like apple? Oh, I'm sorry did you have to download their software manager so you could get the books easier in the future? Amazon requires the same thing for mp3s and Kindle books. You jump through those so called hoops so the company doesn't get ripped off by a bunch of jack asses trying to pirate their product.
Audible is amazing, they have books much cheaper than amazon, they have a huge library, they get new releases the day they come out, and their phone app is seamless and easy. You buy it, download to your phone on the app and listen to it. Why is that so hard? Do you complain that you have to download itunes so you can then buy music and movies? I didn't think so, you love that stuff and probably didn't even think about all of the other "hoops" you have to jump through to get digital products.
And then, good lord, somebody is complaining because they couldn't use their 20 character password, really? A bit paranoid are we?
Audible frustrates me
I found that i could get one credit and i also found that i did not have the book (I thought i did), The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, in audiobook form. So i went to the page and it was big problem for me. I downloaded the program and installed it on my windows 7 pc. But it did not start to download anything , after clicking around i found a second program had to be downloaded so i did. The first file, that that program downloaded was very strange i thought but i figured it was some little file to help download the whole file. It was evidently not a little file it was the whole book. Then i saw that i had to make the program recognise my windows 7,5 phone. But that did not work. It said i did not have a phone attached to my pc. So i looked a little more and found out that to play the audiobook on my phone i had to download an app and install that. And i was directed to the microsoft app store, where i am not registered. But then i quit. I do not have to install jet another program on my phone to listen to my audio books or music, when the mediaplayer works just fine. So from now on until they change the format of the files i am going to buy my audiobooks from emusic.com. As far as i know they still sell there audiobooks in mp3 format.
(Sorry about any spelling and wording error)
Oh the humanity
I've just had the displeasure of using Audible. Well, using isn't really the right word, I think "fighting" fits the bill more accurately.
I have no idea how non tech savvy people are actually getting audible to work. Can anyone recommend an audio book provider who just lets me pay for a book and listen to it on MP3 without having to jump through hundreds of hoops?
WeRead4You
I recommend WeRead4You.com. You can download just a plain MP3 and there's no monthly fee or crap like that. You just pay for the book. Plus their sales are really good. This is probably my favorite website for audiobooks.
http://www.weread4you.com/
Or possibly even Librivox.org. There's some fairly good narrators on there, but you kind of have to sift through them.
no clue what everyone us talking about
I've had audible for months now and have no clue why you guys are having problems. I'm probably the least tech say person in the world. All I did was start an audible account and then I went to the apps store on one phone and the android marketplace on the other and down load the audible app. I then logged in in the app and thats it! I really don't understand what you guys are doing. It's just as simple as a facebook or Twitter app. Not to mention how great it is to be read to and not have to focus on tiny letters and tiny words and get sheaf aches from it. I'm a big audible fan and would recommend it to any and everyone. I really don't understand ways going on and why you'd have problems with downloading and logging into and app.
Audible horrible to setup
August 2011. I had heaps of problems, setting it up, finally got it to work! Lucky I read your blog, and am an IT professional, if I wasn't I would have given up, not good enough Audible write better software.
thanks for the blog though.
Completely agree
I've just gone through the arduous process of setting up an audible.com account and holy cow, what a mess. And I'm a PC professional, been in IT for 15 years. I can't remember the last time I saw such a convoluted mess.
Apparently there's a password limit they don't tell you about. I usually go with password in the 20 character range, using numbers, letters, special characters, etc. I went round and round setting up my complex password with no error messages at all. However, when I tried to log in using this complex password, it failed every time. It wasn't until I reverted to a simple pass with only a few letters and numbers that I was able to log in.
Now after fighting with iTunes (a piece of crap in itself), I see that even though I've downloaded all the pieces of all my audible books, the audible app still wants to download them... Hell, I can't even tell this part of the audible.com mess in such a way as to make sense. Suffice it to say, I'll cancel this free trial and look for other alternatives.
Sure, it may be that I could parse this whole thing out and make it work, but really?! Seriously?!?! Should I have to? there are plenty of other vendors out there that understand "Ease of Use".
Well if you are an IT
Well if you are an IT professional of 15 years and cannot set up and Audible account, you're and idiot. IT professional my arse.
It take 5 minutes to set this up, really nothing difficult. To be honest most people here sound like 'those customers'. If you cannot set up Audible, you are thick.
Audible SUCKS
I got an Audible account several years ago. They had a promotion going on at the time, where if you bought a Platinum membership, you got a free iPod. So I bought it, and they tried to say "The link you clicked on to sign up was expired, and we don't have any iPods, but you've still got a Platinum Membership! Oh, and well give you one free credit!" Now, I'm fully aware that this is a bait and switch tactic, but I was also fully aware that I had no way of proving it, so I just shrugged and said "Screw it." I got through about 8 of my 24 credits, when next year, they automatically renewed my membership, for $225 or whatever it was, and I got ANOTHER 24 credits. No email, no heads up saying "Hey, we hope you know we're about to make you bounce a bunch of checks". Fortunately, I had enough in savings to make rent that month. I was sure to switch my renewal setting from "automatically fucked" to "ask first".
I made a habit of giving away audiobooks to friends and family, since I now had so many god-damned credits. I'd say "Here's my username and password. Just pick a book you want to listen to and download." It worked out well, and even though each account has a limited number of activations, you just have to call and ask for more, and they never ask why. So, I finally used all my credits. My dad thought it would be nice to get me some more credits as a gift. He said he spent about 45 minutes on the website trying to buy more credits as a gift, and kept getting error messages. He called customer support, and they were rude and said the system was down and that he'd have to try again later. He got me a Visa Gift Card instead, and told me the tale.
So, a few years go by, and I've got more time to listen to audiobooks, and I decide to try again, without buying two years worth of credits. I try to do an advanced search to see what books I can find under a certain price. Guess what? They took away the search option for "Price". They had a sale called "Win:Win" recently, with 250 titles under $5 and there was only one way to view the titles; Alphabetically, by author. Not by genre, not by subject, not by release date, if you want to buy a book for under $5, you have to look at EVERY SINGLE TITLE that's on sale to see if you want one. That's like going into a book store, and having to pick up every single book to figure out how much it costs. If you're gonna do that why buy it online AT ALL?! I sent them an email complaining about this, and like every other email I sent to them, I never got a response. PLATINUM MEMBER. No response. Make that "Former" Platinum member. Audible SUCKS.
Audible Technical Problems Are Consistent
I was a member of Audible from 2001 - 2006. Technical problems and aggravations were business as usual with Audible. I'm an executive at web application software company - not an unsophisticated user. Yes, I could fight through it but it was always a hair puller and a time suck. I stuck with it because unfortunately it was the best solution I could find at the time. As other options have now come along, I have switched. I have heard from others that audible is still not as smooth as it could be.
Audible Customer Service is The Worst
Really, the worst, and everyone has plenty of examples of really bad customer service. I could forgive the intellectual property rights management problems, although it's their software that makes it all a lot harder than it needs to be.
But Audible's customer service is horrific.That's unforgivable.
I'll never go back to Audible, and would advise any newbie to try other means and avoid this company.
What a bunch of whiners
My god if you can't figure out how to download an audio book to your iPhone/iPod You shouldn't own one.
I've been with audible with a two book a month membership since 2002. I've talked to their customer support and have recieved excellent support in the past.
For example, I purchased a book once and after five minutes decide the audio quality wasn't up to standard. They returned my credit back even though I could have been lying and read the book.
don't get me wrong, I don't blindly believe in them and I've had my scares too on the past when I get a little paranoid and download and burn all of my purchases on DVD. But I've never had a problem. They keep adding support for new devices. I started out with an old ipaq and found that listening to books on it was the most useful thing to do with it. I went through the sorrow of getting a car without casette which allowed you to connect the device to your cars speakers and through the discovery of radio devices that broadcast to your cars radio. All of this, including around 10 PCs, 7 audio devices, and I've never had a problem a quick call to support (or sometimes the online help people) couldn't fix.
There's a good reason Amazon decided they were worth purchasing.
To those who have issues with downloading/setting up for the first time I say, try to understand the new process, it's worth it.
I totally agree!
Granted, maybe Audible has improved since the OP's article was written (I only joined Audible in the past year), but I find it ridiculously EASY to figure out and use. What the hell is so confusing about it? The OP's complaints remind me of an anti-Mac friend of mine who says he finds Macs "too hard to use" and can only understand PCs. Maybe some people's heads are just wired to be *confused* by intuitive design and ease of use?
Yes, Whiners
I've had the service for a few years now too and I get two books a month or more. I love the service and the tech support has been great. (for the two times I needed it). It think some people believe they know more about computers than they actually do and rather than call tech support, they compound their problems and then blame the others. Sorry for those who have decided to leave. The loss is yours.
No, we are not a bunch of
No, we are not a bunch of whiners. Audible is crap. I've bought and downloaded countless Mp.3s from, for example, the BBC without needing to go through the rigmarole that Audible has just put me through with the result of an audio book that I cannot listen to. God alone knows what format it is in but it's not one that my generic MP3 player recognises. It wouldn't be so bad if it was cheap but it isn't. I could have bough the same audio book on CD for the same price and ripped it to my PC and shared it with anyone I liked, if such was my choice. Audible is not just crap it's also pointless.
it's rubbish
I wasn't impressed by the registration procedure. If the software dates from 2008 or earlier, I suppose it makes sense to me now, but these days, insisting on creating a user name distinct from the required e-mail address seems silly.
The introductory pages suggest they support MP3 players. My daughter got a Sony Walkman for Christmas. It's a fairly high-profile MP3 player, I'd have thought, and I'd expect it to outrank (say) a Buick (which is supported), but no.
After the purchase, the real troubles started.
I booted up Windows 7 (containing iTunes linked to an iPod) to run Internet Explorer to give the Audible Download Manager and Audible Manager as plain a chance of working (off Mac and Linux) as I could, and I'm already intrigued as to what non-specialist users make of this rubbish. More and more software arrived on my machine, including crud that wouldn't continue until I shut some other crud down by hand, and ... I still haven't got my audio purchase downloaded, let alone transferred into iTunes and from thence to a supported device. Even after all they've added all their Managerial layers ("How many Managers does it take to download an audio file?") the obvious "download" button sends a .pl file, which unsurprisingly flummoxed Windows. Possibly they haven't tested this stuff under Windows 7 with the latest IE?
By contrast, a similar outing to silksoundbooks.com had quick registration, and provided clear instructions for downloading a zip'd set of MP3 files (in the obvious way), which were easily transferred from my daughter's netbook to her Sony (in the obvious way), and without requiring crud like iTunes. I'm about to try audiogo (formerly BBC Audio Books).
Audible downloads are distorted on iphone
My audio books play well on my PC. When I download them to my iphone, the sound gets distorted (like an echo). The customer support rep says this is a problem with some older titles. Well, some of titles are max 2 years old and still have the problem. I tried the enhanced format. Same problem.
Customer service is slow and not very proactive.
Anybody had a problem with this?
Cheers,
Niklas
Issues with Audible
I just had to re-install Vista on my computer, then Itunes, now I can't listen to the three books I bought from Audible, because I don't have internet access at home. So I emailed customer support to see if there was anything that I could do. The response that I got was basically a rehash of information I already had. It seems like the person didn't even read to see what my problem was in the first place.
As far as your books being 'permanently' saved, I've tried several times to log back in, and it won't let me,maybe because I don't currently have a contract with them, who knows...
I understand why they want you to allow Itunes via the 'net...I'd just like for them to have an alternative for those of us who can't afford internet access in the home.
(And yes, I do know that an alternative would be actual books, of which I have many...:))
Audible/ITunes
All I have to say is AMEN to your article. Our family is just about ready to go back to the written word and ebooks at the library. We have our own accounts with ITunes and Audible and would like to share our purchases, but find it a very big hassle to do for the money we are paying = not only for the purchases, for memberships.
No iPhone app
I must admit I am VERY DISAPPOINTED in Audible that they have not addressed the issue of an app to enable direct access to my Audible library for the iPhone.
Over two years ago, I was able to directly listen to my library wirelessly with my Palm Treo. I have had my iPhone for almost two years an still cannot do so. I'm left to download the WSJ read every morning and if I run out of time, I'm out of luck.
Cannot understand what is the issue here and why have they have not addressed it in the past two years.
Audible Tracks
I couldn't agree more about the complications connected with Audible downloads. But the biggest bugbear to me is that when you finally get there, you can end up with an entire audiobook of 7 hours or more on one track. How ridiculous is that? How are you supposed to find where you left off if you should happen to want to listen to something else before you are finished with a book? Or am I missing something? Can you download a version that is in tracks like a CD?
Audible tracks
My dear friend, You ARE missing something.
I have been using audible for 7 years, and even since the beginning, the ONE thing that ALWAYS worked in Audible is the Bookmarking capability which lets you pick up any book where you left off.
Audible sucks
I just got a gift certificate to Audible.co.uk. After failing to understand how using it works for about ten minutes, I realized I have to pretend I'm purchasing books for money, click a store credit checkbox, and then install some stupid program just to download the file.
Not only don't they support Linux, but my only other option fails too, because the S60 app they provide is for S60 v3. I have S60 v5 on my phone. If you're going to use DRM, at least keep your moronic software up to date.
Either the person who bought the gift card gets the money back or I'm complaining to the government. Either way, I hope they go out of business due to this DRM crap.
I just found out that a lot
I just found out that a lot of my credits expired. I did not know that they can expire my fully paid for credits. I called customer support and closed my account. Does anyone on the earth hear about this kind of things before? I would not recommend that anyone sign up to even purchase a single book from audible. I should have read the custom review first before I tried Audible.com.
depending on the type of
depending on the type of account you have yes your credits have a time limit on them, back in 04 when I signed up my account there was one 2 options buy the by the book or a monthly subscription, if you didnt pick you book out in a month you lost your credits (they stopped selling my account years ago), I belive the new subscriptions now give you 12 months to purchase your books, there are more then enough books on the site to have picked them out in 12 months
it's not so bad, but..
I've been using Audible for a couple years and just got an iPhone, (previous devices were non-mac products) and while I found Audible manager clunky, it worked acceptably. However.. after several hours of search and reading through Audibles knowledge base, this was the first place I saw the playist thing mentioned. It took about two seconds to get it working. Audible- come on.
Why Audible.Com is Failing
I am a customer of Audible for more than 1,5 years an NEVER had any problems as stated above. Even when I had to re-install everything because of a malfunction of my pc, everything went well.
Buying is simple, correct and easy with the download helper. Even now with I-Tunes as the standard program for music, it is automatically transferred into I-Tunes...it couldn't be more easy!
Only Part 1 was downloaded
Hopefully someone here can help since Audible's support won't be back until after Memorial Day. I bought a large audio book and part 1 downloaded fine. But I have no idea how to get part 2 downloaded (and when I bought the book had no idea it would come in two parts). Any pointers as to how to locate part 2 so I can download it? I've checked "my account" and there's no clues about this, only that I bought the book.
Thanks, Pizzaiolo
Nevermind, I found it
I never saw the "My Library" until after I posted my question.
I love Audible
Audible is the simplest interface imaginable. Every book you buy is permanently stored in your online library, you simply change your account settings to reflect the current computers you own or the listening devices you use.
It's really that simple.
I know people want to whine about DRM and how fascist it is and how it's a pain and blah blah blah.
But I value the works of these authors and narrators, and would not want their efforts dissolved in the hazy scum cloud of filesharing.
So yes, I don't mind the DRM. I also don't mind paying for Audible, because the prices are quite reasonable.
I have read all the comments
I have read all the comments on this particular blog entry and am fascinated by the problems people have had with the downloads and software from this site. I use a Mac, iTunes, Firefox, iPod and CD's and have not had a single issue. I'm fairly knowledgeable when it comes to downloading and installing (even on PC's) and am not sure where the problem lies. I hope everyone figures it out, though. :)
Goodie for you
Not everyone is as knowledeable as you. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to working on a computer since that is my job.....however, anytime you have to download one piece of software into another piece of software to access something you paid for, and have all these little thingy's you need to know to do it correctly, you are doing a disservice to those who are not that computer savvy. It shouldn't be that difficult - no wonder other countries are miles ahead of us in technology. The companies in the US need to learn to share for the good of the consumer, not themselves - and we'll still buy.
You are...
No, you are an idiot.
long-time audible customer
I've been an audible customer for a long, long time (at least 7 years now I think). I do a lot of driving in my job and enjoy listening to the audiobooks. In that time I have seen audible update their software only once and it was better BEFORE the update. The software is buggy, doesn't play right, it always skips during playback (on my windows mobile device), forgets what book I'm playing after I turn it off. Remembers bookmarks for books I haven't had on the device in months (i.e. I load a book into it and it says I've already listened to the whole thing. I have to rewind back to the start).
I love the audible service. I love being able to download the books I want in the morning and walk out the door listening to one of my favorite authors. But their software sucks. They need to hire some real programmers to write new software and keep it up to date.
To long time Audible user
Personally I think your problem is not with Audible but rather with your hardware devices. I have to agree with the Mac user who wrote in after you. Since I use a Mac with an iPod and an iPod Touch the device always remembers where I am even when I listen to something else such as music or a podcast. I do wish there was software that would download directly to my iPod Touch and I do believe Audible needs to address this issue. Or maybe someone else will write an App that addresses the issue.
I completely agree. I joined
I completely agree. I joined audible for the Ricky Gervais series. Turns out I cant burn to CD for my car unless I have Nero 8 ultra - yeah right, I'm goin to buy that just for this purpose (Ive got Nero but its not the expensive high spec version). Yesterday I bought an Ipod Touch and cant even find that as a device. I emailed Audible and told them straight that it was time to get into the 21st century and they have lost my possibly lucrative business. Being told to donwload yet another (very poor) piece of audible software so I can transfer to my Ipod is a step too far.
DRM doesnt work, there are hacks every time it revises. The DVD industry tried and failed to prevent copying and they are still going strong.
What annoys me is this, you pay for the track then you cant use it how you want. The theory is one person buys it, then gives it to everyone for free if it didnt have DRM. I wont do that - if I pay for something I cant get from Torrents then no one else is getting it.
DRM doesnt work, and any company that promote it in their products needs a wide steer. Ive bought the podcats from Itunes instead - yes some are still DRMd (it looks like they are going to drop it on standard Itunes) but at least it bloody works and transfers to my Ipod. Easy.
Audible's DRM is very
Audible's DRM is very cumbersome. Fortunately I usually just listen to the books straight off my PC. A single glance at "click here to register your device" was enough to steer me away from even attempting to transfer the books to my mp3 player.
I would suggest http://podiobooks.com They offer free audio books in a variety of categories (mostly by independent writers). For example, The Pocket and the Pendant is an excellent book for kids and adults alike (http://www.podiobooks.com/title/the-pocket-and-the-pendant) Well written and well read.
Audible's software and customer sevice is terrible
On a whim last night, I really missed a Deepak Chopra program I had on cassette. I don't own a cassette player anymore and decided to pay for a legal copy in digital format. Amazon didn't have it in download format, so I didn't find many options; only Audible.com and Simply Audiobooks. The 'price' seemed better at Audible, so I went with it.
First, I found their membership programs to be confusing but I didn't let it stop me. If only I had known what I was soon in for, I would have gone elsewhere.
They managed to charge my card instantly, but when I was introduced to 'My Library' I had to think hard what to do next. I don't have an I-Pod, I just wanted an MP3 or such. It seemed obvious that the thing to do was click 'Download' next to the audio I had added to my library, but when I did so, it installed a download manager (yet another crappy implementation on par with microsoft's own) and AudibleManager, which is the gatekeeper for the DRS functionality. Thing is, nothing ever downloaded, there was no intro or instructions, and clicking 'help' did nothing at all.
I thought I should wait a while but next morning, there is still nothing in my library on my computer.
I was also perplexed how difficult it was to get customer service via email; I finally found a web form to submit a trouble ticket, in which I explained that clicking 'download' next to the audiobook in my library (on the website) only downloads the manager program again.
I got a robotic response by email late this afternoon that did not address why my download did not arrive. I responded to that emphasizing that the software is not working. The next robotic response read as if I never mentioned anything about the download failure. It just said download from 'my library' as before, ignoring the problem with the download. I've sent a third response, but now I wish I'd never tried them. I'm running XP, not some exotic OS flavor.
In my book, the service I'm getting is on par with Verizon (who is only worse because I can't get them to take my money!)
Audible's software and customer sevice is terrible
FYI, the wesite's download functionality doesn't work with Opera. You have to use Internet Explorer. Typical. Would have been nice if that was mentioned somewhere!
John, there's " "
John, there's " " strings appearing in your posts, both in Google Reader and directly on the GL blog. I wonder if this is related to the posting software you're using?
Yes, it turns out that
Yes, it turns out that ScribeFire was inserting those buggily. Should be fixed now. Thanks!
John
Audible
I experienced the same frustrations when I first started using audible, but if you listen to a lot on tape while you're working out or travelling, they have a nice selection, and I haven't found a better alternative yet.
My biggest complaint is that I can't lend anybody any of the books I listen to, so if I find one that's particularly good (the 10 faces of innovation comes to mind), I can tell my colleagues about it, but not share it with them. In practice, Audible's DRM is more restrictive than a book.
Give your colleagues your
Give your colleagues your audible username and password and let them download recommended book from your library.
Hmmm....I've been using
Hmmm....I've been using Audible for years and so has my wife. We haven't had any problems - just made sure the devices we tried to download on to were on their list (first, my Rio player, and later until present, iPods).
When I want a new book, I:
1) Purchase it (2 mins)
2) Navigate to the "My Library" section and download it to my computer (5 mins for most books)
3) Transfer the program onto my player (1-2 mins)
I've thought about the inability to lend as mentioned previously, but if I was running the business I don't know what better scheme I'd come up with to make sure that authors, readers, and Audible itself get paid.
Buying just one book on CD at a bookstore costs many times what the same book does from Audible and each book represents a goodly sized box of CD's laying around that has to be kept somewhere.
So, while it might be a pain at times, it makes my commute a lot better and I haven't seen anything even close to it in the Recorded Books arena.
I'm with you; I love Audible
I've been an Audible member on and off for over five years. I've had minimal difficulty with the program. The titles are extensive. The download is straight forward and quick (especially with Format 2). I've been able to burn to CD off Itunes. Mostly I can store a huge library in virtually no space. The space this would take up in CDs or hardcopy text would be significant and I would probably wind up pruning titles regularly.
If someone wants a copy, I can loan out an old 1st gen nano I've kept, or I can burn to CD.
I've used Audible on both Apple and PC desktops. My only non-Itunes MP3 experience was with the Audible Otis from way back. Otis was a bit of a drag because the SD card was so small it could only hold one book at a time.
I'm sorry so many have had so much difficulty. For me, Audible's been awesome.
Step 2) Download it to my computer (5 min)
I have attempted to download my second book from audible.com. It downloaded Part 1 fine, but after many, many tries, Part 2 timeouts. Their help page says router manufacturers have reported firmware problems, suggestion is for customer to upgrade firmware. Great help!
My ISP is Time Warner cable, I use a Mac with OS 10.4, Safari, iTunes. Pretty standard customer setup. If audible.com can't handle my situation - they are definitely headed for problems.
I don't understand why one file would download fine, then minutes later the second one will not download after several tries over a 24 hour period.
Can anyone help?
AUDIBLE.COM TIMEOUTS
I have the same problem. Sometimes a download proceeds uninterrupted but more often than not it times out. I use a Mac, 10.4.11, Safari, iTunes.
I previously used a PC, and Audible's software. Audible's download manager had the ability to resume a timed-out download where it had left off, rather than to restart. This had to be done manually; sometimes as many as 10 times during a single download.
Safari (and other Mac download managers) have to restart from scratch which can be expensive if like me you have to pay extra to your ISP.
I have raised this with Audible and suggested that what is required is software for the Mac that can (1) resume from the point of interruption, and (2) do so automatically in the manner of, for example, "Speed Download" by Yazsoft. (Incidentally Speed Download also resumes Audible downloads from the start, not the point of interruption.)
It is odd though that downloads time out so much. I download similar sized files (100+MB) to instal software, or watch video, or listen to mp3s. Those downloads rarely if ever fail. The problem must be at Audible's end. That nonsense about router firmware has been on the Audible website unchanged for ages. Audible's is the ONLY site with which I have this problem, and it occurs whether I use broadband or dial-up, Mac or PC, directly plugged in or via wireless.
Their email support rarely produces answers that are even relevant to the question. Their human support on the phone is usually the better option: 888-283-5051 (USA & Canada) 973-820-0400 (International).
Lending books via audible
First - I disagree with the article here. These are all simple steps in relative computer terms. Once you know them it is all very quick.
I've now been an active audible book listener for nearly a year. I have a large library and wanted to share with several other audible listeners at work, friends, and family.
I just decided to get an ipod shuffle for just that purpose. Mostly I listen with my iPhone, but in order to share a book or ask someone to let me borrow a book - the shuffle should work fine. A 1GB new is $50. I got one from ebay for $35. One shuffle will contain about 4 books and the lack of a screen should not hinder listening since you are only talking 8-12 files to select between.
There are many books that I use bit torrent to get (since more than 2 books a month is my norm). But the ease of use and selection make me continue to pay 22/mo to audible. I do wish that the public library system would support iPod formats.